Collins pre-dates the first printed edition of DB (Farley 1783), and in 1740 I suppose few people would have had access to the original. So I wonder whether a different Domesday Book has been confused with the famous one. For example, the Ipswich Domesday
of 1521 would be likely to contain information on the land-holdings of the Suffolk Tollemache family. However, it is unpublished so I can't check it for Toedmag easily.
Keith
Arthur Collins, The Baronettage of England (1740) says, 1 p70, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MelEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=collins+%22hugh+talmashe%22&source=bl&ots=5umHfht1KN&sig=DVIebWEgd-6yZaygdHGGYAlXnlM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_tubH_rHZAhVB1RQKHRgAC1oQ6AEINzAC#v=onepage&q=collins%20%22hugh%20talmashe%22&f=false), says ‘in Doomsday-Book, Toedmag (as the name was then spelt) is said to possess Lands {Ex Inf. Lio. E. of Dysert}’.
If you have a ouija board handy, I’d have a word with that Lio. (who turns out to be Lionel Tollemache, 4th Earl of Dysart, Lord Huntingtower) and ask him what he’s playing around at.
Jeremy Harte
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Sometimes dubious claims have to be reverse-engineered to find the source of the confusion or error. The statement below can be found in a 1821 issue of the Gentleman's Magazine, and has been repeated in several later publications, as can easily be found by googling. It was clearly believed by Ralph Tollemache, who gave two of his children the name Toedmag
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Tollemache).
But apart from the impossible etymology suggested, there is the more serious problem that I can't find Toedmag in DB, not in the folios covering Bentley in Suffolk (LDB 287b, 295b), or anywhere else. Where did the author of this statement get the idea from?
Keith
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