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All discussions of the name Thetford seem to assume that there are only two.   There was another, at the boundary of the liberty of Ipswich on the road to Belstead (TM143419).   For the evidence, see page 28 of my article.


Keith


@article{SIAH:Briggs:2017,
  author="Keith Briggs",
  title="The bounds of the Liberty of Ipswich",
  journal="Proceedings of the Suffolk Institute of Archaeology and History",
  number=1,
  volume=44,
  pages="19--38",
  year=2017,
}


From: The English Place-Name List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Daphne Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 10 March 2018 18:18
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Subject: Re: Daphne Nash Briggs 2017 and Thetford NFK. Other -de-la-frontera PN
 
Dear Nick,

Many thanks for your kindly mention! 

I heartily agree with much that you say here, and I did in fact comment on the Thetford name in another place, for what it’s worth: 'Sacred image and regional identity in late-Prehistoric Norfolk’ in eds. T.A. Heslop, E Mellings, M Thøfner, Art, Faith and Place in East Anglia from Prehistory to the Present (Boydell Press, 2012), pp 30-49, where I tackle the earlier history of that site. I quote, p. 49, “ A widespread generic, Celtic title for the tutelary spirit of a people was Teutates or Toutatis. Logically, this might have been one of the Thetford god’s original titles, though there is no positive evidence to prove it; and after the Thetford shrine was dismantled a Teutates was venerated elsewhere in Roman Norfolk. [footnote 54 gives refs and mentions an Arvernian parallel in Gaul, that fits with your mention of Icoranda]. Nonetheless, it is sugestive of the special significance of this sacred place, close to the Icenian people’s Iron Age frontier and the Roman civitas boundary, that the present-day river and the town at its ford take their names from an Anglo-Saxon word that has exactly the same root and meaning as Brittonic Teuta or Touta: theod, the people.”
I have posted that, and other papers on related themes, on academia.edu, for anyone who might be interested.

On 10 Mar 2018, at 12:53, Nick Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I was in Heffer's last week and picked up the latest annual collection of symposium papers from Celtic Studies Publications, Aberystwyth - "Celtic Religions in the Roman Period" ed Hauessler and King.
GBP 40.00 and very well worth it. 26 papers - including one on the theonym *Conventina by F. Fernandez Palacios with a very handy overview of the etym. possibilities in Celtic and Latin for the related Venta place-names.
About 9 papers are not in English - 3 French, 3 Sp, 2 Ger, 1 It.
There is a lot of state-of-the-art linguistic comment, mainly on Celtic but a bit on Germanic and Latin as well.

Regarding Thetford NFK, there is a very interesting paper by Daphne Nash Briggs on the epithets applied to the god Faunus and engraved on the silver spoons of the Thetford Treasure, unearthed 1979 and now in the BM. They do show that, at least in the field of religion, elite Icenians wanted British epithets engraved on their silver - as well as Latin.  (I still think lowland Britain will have more or less completely switched to Latin by the 370's which the hoard is dated to - there is still a prominent bit of Aramaic ("talitha koum" etc. Kephas = stone), Hebrew ("Eloi, eloi, lama sab-" ) Greek "Christ" in modern NTs. Religion archaisizes linguistically).

I suggested here in posts last year that the two Thetford names were to be equated with Icoranda and Morgariton names in Gaul - i.e. marking Iron Age and post Roman boundaries.   I suggested there were many other PNs with human landscape value "boundary of polity". DNB does not comment linguistically on the Thetford name - but please read this:
"The history of this site must have been related to its command of an important road near a border crossing .... it is exactly the sort of place where travellers in and out of a territory could be obliged to present their credentials and pay their respects".  (NC: and pay their customs dues!).   DNB says the major crossing point from Icenian to Catuvellaunian-Trinovantian terr.

Here's a brief overview of some PNs which have human landscape value: Boundary Crossing
Feel free to disagree with some of these.

- Thetford NFK and Little Thetford Cambs (OE theod)
- Ludlow SHR , Lydford DEV the very big "common access" grazing parish on Dartmoor (OE hleode)
- Harwich, Harlow ESX Hereford, Little Hereford, Hergest HRF Harefield MDX (OE here)
- Plaistow Essex A (Middx border) and B (Nearish Suffolk border in Halstead Rural)
Plaistow W SSX (on SUR border)
and other PNS with OE pleg (not all though - not eg Plaxtol KNT)
- Liss HMP, (border w SUR), Brailes WAR (OXF border) Weston-under-LIzard STF/SHR (Celtic lisso "court")

On the Southern land boundary of Greater Cantia, some or all of..
Limpsfield (L limen ?), Westerham, Groombridge (aggressive young men), Crowboro (Brannos God of boundaries), Mayfield (OE maeghth), Tonbridge , Chiddingstone KNT if with the OE "kith" word - and ending with Lympne (L. limen again - maybe)

Thanks for reading this post. Nick